Saturday, February 27, 2010

B³ Post-Game Recap 2/27: Team USA 7, Lincoln 1

Yikes. I guess the old motto applies to this game, "If you can't beat them, beat them up."

Team USA's U-18 team schooled the Lincoln Stars up and down the ice on Saturday night. In the meantime, Lincoln racked up two fighting majors, six roughing penalties and four unsportsmanlike conduct misconducts, turning an otherwise clinic into a street fight.

Team USA won the game, 7-1. There really isn't much to say about this game, other than what has been said the majority of the season: bad game. Lincoln fell down 5-0 before Jarrod Mermis lit the lamp with 19 seconds left in the second period. Team USA scored twice early in the third to turn it into a rout. Jared Coreau, who has been stellar of late, was pulled early in the second after allowing four goals on 20 shots, although they were not all his fault. Matt Green didn't fare much better, allowing three goals on 16 shots.

Team USA goalie Jack Cambell made 37 saves on 38 shots. Jason Zucker had a hat trick 26 minutes into the game.

What say you, Stars fans? The team hasn't started thinking about going home yet, have they? This weekend at the Ice Box sure was not fun. Stars outscored 11-1 on their home ice. Ouch.

44 comments:

lincolnfan said...

the most embarrassing game this year, in my opinion. i don't really know what to make of the Stars anymore.. seems like the Stars can play solid at times, but the majority of the time we're chasing the puck around and relying on Coreau and Green to cover for us. i'm beginning to agree with the idea that we're not improving any. they do try and they work hard, but it seems like the talent and skills just aren't there. i was confident that after we had less injured players we would be further up in the division and at least have a chance at the playoffs.. but we're not even close. i understand that the plan now is to begin building for next year, but i still don't see any improvement from one week to the next.. can't make passes, can't control the puck, can't take advantage of the powerplay, etc. i hope that next year we have a lot of returning players and that will help some, but if we're not improving now when all the players are healthy, not giving up, and ready to win, don't see how next year will be any different...

Anonymous said...

The problem is development over the course of a season. The solution is coaching.
Youngstown went 2-17 before the coaching change. One of those wins was against the Stars. How long will we have to wait? another year, another season is much too long.
You can come on and pledge your support for the team as much as you want.But if you really care, you will support change. One month ago the coaching staff promised us change. It is not the new good players, it is the same old system or better yet lack of a clear system. Time for change!

Yeti said...

Thanks for the article, BT.

That certainly wasn't fun to watch. I had hope the Stars would come out and play them tough, but that didn't happen. You gotta give credit to Team USA, though. I should go back and change the poll question, because that was by far the best team I've seen in person this season. I knew going in that the odds would be stacked against the Stars, but I didn't know how good Team USA was. They passed the puck, and cycled the puck in the offensive zone like a collegiate team. The disparity in overall talent between the two teams was obvious.

The Stars powerplay is as bad as I've seen it the past three seasons. It's beyond anemic. The fans sitting around me comment that the Stars are better off 5-on-5 than with the man advantage. Sadly, I agree. Last night, they couldn't even get it set up in the offensive zone. Special teams this season hasn't improved at all. In fact, I'd argue that it has regressed.

How about that pre-game traffic? Mrs. Yeti and I left our house at 5:30pm, and it wasn't until 6:30pm until we stepped inside the IceBox. It was unreal. Don't get me started on the bangwagon UNL basketball fans. Uggh. What a nightmare.

Not a fun night at all.

Yeti said...

Also, I hope the fan sitting in the front row in Section D wearing the paper bag over his/her head felt clever. I really wanted to walk over there, grab it, and throw it in the trash. Are you truly embarrassed to show your face at a Stars game? I can solve that problem for you. Don't show up. Give your tickets to a fan who appreciates the game, and won't give up on their team.

Anonymous said...

I have to chime in on this one! Yes the record isn't what you want as fans, but what you need to understand is the rebuilding started at tryouts this year. That development team has been skating together for two or more years! With specialized training nutritionist and other perks that most ushl teams cannot provide. Our team and our coach has put together a pretty good group of young players for the future and from what I've seen out of them Lincoln's future looks bright.

starstruck said...

I agree that paper bag business was disgusting. To the person who felt it necessary to do that: if you're embarrassed to be a Stars fan, please don't be - you made it clear you are NO FAN.

It seems there are a number of mean-spirited things going on - some people need to grow up! If you can't attend the games and be a good sport, go find something else to do!

Anonymous said...

When are the owners going to wise up?? WE NEED A COACHING CHANGE

tzweeb said...

hey all yes the stars are not going the direction we want and are used to. i dont have even one answer, but the coach is not on the ice, so lets just let the guys play and support the team as a whole.

now onto a better thing... the USA olympic team is getting on the ice for the gold medal game. lets all cheer them onto a win!!!

Anonymous said...

this team plays with absolutely no swagger. no intimidation. nothing. i see a lot of players giving up on finishing checks, which makes me wonder whether or not they've given up on the season. earlier on in the season, i believed that coach mcgroarty deserved another year to make it right. now, i think changes need to be made. Are the players tuning him out? from what i see on the ice, it sure seems like it to me. i'd hate to see attendance suffer because the owners are hesitant to make a change. stop the bleeding.

USHLProspectsBlog said...

Yeah, a coaching change in the middle of the season is going to change everything. That's the worst thing we could do. Sure, we can fire coach after the season and maybe things would change, maybe not. I just can't see the coach getting fired after the season for whatever reason.

As for last night, please remember that the Stars were playing the best junior hockey players in the world, which they proved in the WJHC this year. If you don't remember, Jack Campbell, the goalie we played against last night led USA to victory against Canada in that tournament. Campbell is also going to be a top 10 draft pick in this year's NHL draft so it's not like we were playing a cupcake team last night.

Anonymous said...

maybe lincoln and fargo could do a coach trade.

Anonymous said...

For those of you that think a change in the coaching staff is not needed, you are crazy. This Lincoln team has had and still has some greatly skilled hockey players. What this coach has done to Lincoln Stars hockey is unacceptable and I hope that the owners are able to see where it got them to hire the "cheap" coach to put money in their pocket. This coach has done nothing to help these players develope or to even promote these guys to colleges. I can assure you that this group of guys in the locker have their bags packed and ready to head back home. Unfortunately, for some of them, their hockey careers will end in Lincoln, thanks to the coaching staff.

tzweeb said...

annon, are you some type of an insider?? i refuse to believe that any of these kids will give up their hockey careers because of a bad season. you certainly dont know how a kid thinks.
yes i agree that the team doesnt have that special thing going this year, but to say its over forever?? no way.
have some respect for the players hard work and dont come to a home game, we dont want the blamers and the sack people to show up. come back next year when we are doing well again.
band wagon jumpers will be welcome back next year.

USHLProspectsBlog said...

If I had my choice, I would rather have all the fair weather fans just give up their season tickets. I'd rather have 2000 fans that care than 4000 idiots that blame everything on the coach. Yes, some blame has to fall on the coach, but using him as the scapegoat for a season that just have not gone our way is totally wrong. We have some bad breaks (8 OT losses), and we've outplayed some of the best teams in the league this year and we've been unlucky. Yes, we've done some bad things this year, but at least half of our disapointments have come from unlucky bounces.

Anonymous said...

Writing is on the wall!
Since dec to feb the end result of W/L's is won 5 lost 23.
The greatest fans in the USHL deserve better. For the players that come here it is like a dead-end street as development stops,fear of being traded away looms large, and bag skating and shot blocking takes over positional practices.
Assistant coaches should be selected to teach and instruct the players and not just be a Yes Man to the coach.They should be qualified with coaching experience.
The Stars MGMT can start now to make a change for the good of this franchise. Replace the coaching staff,prepare for next year and stop the bleeding.

Jofa said...

USHL Prospects Blog, we did not play the WJC champs last night.Only two of those kids were on the WJC team. Tzweeb,you know what Nate Baumbick is doing? He quit hockey and is living with his girlfriend in Lincoln.


If you guys don't think that our coach with Napolean Syndrome has an effect on their careers, think again. The only kid that has stood up to him and in my opinion should have been captain, had his A stripped.


These kids come here hoping to become better hockey players and move on to College. It's a shame that they have to be traded to achieve that goal.

Travis said...

Stars had a bad season. End of story. If it continues next year, Jimmy goes. If we get back to normal (playoff team) all will be forgotten. One bad season does not equal a bad coach. Two in a row, possibly. If you sick of watching the team lose, save your money and stay home. Don't pull out the paper bags. Those are kids you are degrading by doing that. Yes they do it in the NFL and other professional leagues, but those athletes are paid. The Stars players are just trying to advance to the next stage of their careers and all should be supported. I do not agree with a lot of what McGroarty does or has done this season, but I am not the ownership and trust that if he really stinks as bad as some of you think he does he will be shown the door. Until then, support the players, enjoy the game of hockey or find something better to do on your weekend nights. Do not come to the Ice Box to get drunk and be a dick.

USHLProspectsBlog said...

Jofa, I didn't say that we played the WJHC team last night, I can see how it looks like that, but I said it to tie into the Jack Campbell statement.

Yeti said...

Ok, folks. Everybody please take a deep breath and count to ten before posting. We're all upset that the season has ended up like it has. There's no reason to start taking it out on each other. We all love the Stars, and support the players on the ice. Be civil, please. I hate to delete comments, but when they start getting personal, I will.

Thank you.

dr said...

Well since we are all playing the blame game here I guess I'll blame the person who runs the scoreboard....I mean after all he is the one who changes the score so it must be his fault right? (For those of you who may have difficulty understanding this it's SARCASM)

mike0913 said...

Remember this isn't the first year the Star's have missed the playoffs. Since the move to Tier 1 there hasn't been any repeat champions in this league. You can't go out and recruit whomever you want like it was when the Stars first came into the league. Now teams have to draft players to get their rights. If the best high schooler in the country wants to play for Lincoln but Chicago drafts him, he has to either play for Chicago or play in another league. He can't play for Lincoln unless Chicago gives up his rights. Even if Lincoln drafts the best player in the country, there is no guarantee he makes it to Lincoln. He could choose to go straight to college, go play in Canada, or choose to stay at home with his family. You can't stock pile talent year after year now. that is why there are no repeat champions anymore and why there will more down years. A few years ago Des Moines won a cup and the next year they were leagues worst team. They fired the coach midway through the season and they haven't recovered since.

tzweeb said...

mike i believe that the stars have only missed the play-offs one other time.. that may be why there is so much bitterness about how we are doing this year.
not to worry, we are a great place to play and the kids that watch still know that the STARS are a great team and will want to come here and enjoy what we as a team can offer.

Anonymous said...

Okay-sorry have to post this. This team will continue to sink as long as the coach is the same. The ability to develop players and come up with plays says it all. Our power play has stunk for three years now. If you think this team will be better next year remember one thing. We have maybe one returning defensemen. Wasn't that our problem this year? A young defense? Three of the kids we traded are not with the teams traded to. What did we lose as far as draft picks because of that? I will always be a fan because I love the Stars and think these are some great young men but the way these men are coached is atrocious. It would be a tremendous injustice to the fans and players to allow this coach to continue down this path.

Anonymous said...

Jofa you are correct. These kids come here to develope and get college scholarships, how many have gotten them since they came here??? I haven't heard of any, has anyone else heard anything???

These coaches have no control of this team on and definately no control off the ice.

Anonymous said...

Now that the season is about over (12 games left) I thought I would throw my 2 cents in with everyone else's loose change. I have gone to every home game this year as well as 99% of the games since the first drop of the puck of the very first year. We also travel to away games when possible so I have watched and tried to be a student of the game both as a player and a coaching aspect.
The last years of Coach Johnson at he helm was interesting because his coaching style changed as his level of being burnt out in Lincoln surfaced. His last year players wanted to go home way before the season was over. Don't get me wrong Steve was a very fine coach and still is.
Now on to present day and what I think is happening.I believe these kids (young athletics)are tired of being yelled at and put down during practice, during the game or afterwards. An amazing example is during the Fall Classic in Sioux City this year I watched the very first game, during the first period one of our 16 year old first year players was sent to the locker room and told to shower up. Now that's a developing player coaching style.The player was told he wasn't giving 100%. Also, during the course of the year players are sent to the locker room during the game for whatever reason, they are sent home without showering after games, and most recently told to go straight home and not go to the hallways to meet their fans, host families and most of all their parents that drove or flew many miles to see their kids.I believe we are the ones paying the bills around here. I believe that these kids have lost any or all respect of the coaching staff and you wonder why we aren't winning. I believe we have a ton of talent but it is being wasted away here at the Ice Box. Isn't this an developement league and not a place where a coach takes his frustration out on the kids because of lack of coaching talent. How many of these returning players really want to return????

Anonymous said...

NONE - I'm sure!

And you hit it right on the head.

Wake up owners.

Anonymous said...

The fans (ticket holders) are still coming to the games and are trying to fill the stands, but next year will be very KEY! What you saw in the stands in the 2nd period last Saturday night will be the normal crowd next year. Now isn't that SAD? And yes the tickets holders do pay the bills.
Sugar coat what you want bloggers,but the truth has always been the truth.
There is more going on this season than what the fans are seeing on the ice.

Anonymous said...

Well said Jofa!

longtimefan said...

I been a fan for years and yes this year has been hard to take. I can take losing, it sucks, but that is part of sports. What really bothers me the most is the rumors or facts of the mis-treatment of the kids. If what is being said is true, we need a change. These are KIDS. I'm old enough to look at these players as one of my own. It makes me sick to think of a kid being treated poorly. Its not allowed in high school sports to beat kids down. It shouldn't be allowed in a junior hockey setting either. I hope that the treatment of players is addressed. If the coaches are treating the players correctly, then I don't have a problem with the team.

BellTolls said...

Not that I have anything to contribute to this discussion, because I don't, but just to play devil's advocate, I have a few questions.

Why no complaints about mistreatment in the past two years when we were winning? Did it not happen then? All I heard was how much Jimmy cared for the players, and that often came from the players themselves. I understand people change win or lose, and that's not OK.

It seems everyone is coming out of the woodwork now. I know we had two terrible games this weekend, but we've been bad all season. Why now?

I am not condoning any sort of actions or anything, but as a Husker basketball fan, I know that naysayers always come out, and multiply rapidly when things are going bad. Have these complaints been made known to the higher-ups?

Anonymous said...

After hearing all these comments its evident the players are intimidated to talk and frankly I believe the owners are as well.... who owns this team and what will it take for them to make a change? Its all about the money and until the owners feel the pain..its evident they wont make a change... Do the owners care about development? NOT!

Anonymous said...

Wow, This is Incredible, Jimmy did a good job at The Lancers and has done a Good job for the Stars, stop complaining and start Singing. I was there Friday and the Crowd was quiet, except the Visiting Lancer fans, of which I was One. twelve games to Go, Get Behind the Players On the Ice who are taking Lumps and still Playing hard.
Call yourself fans.....
Why didn't someone ask the "Fan" to remove the bag and show some respect.
Win or Lose, stay till the end.

longtimefan said...

BellToll, this is what my statement is addressing. This is the first I have heard of the treatment of players being questioned. I bowled with the stars last year and everyone seemed to get along great with the coaches. Granted, these are different kids. If the people who are saying the coaches do bad things, I hope they have their facts straight. Hopefully people aren't making accusations due to the poor season.

Anonymous said...

Ok so I know everyone has their own opinion about what they think may be going on this season.... but here are some stats that some of you band wagon jumpers and even so called fans who are not seeing any good out of the final scores night after night.

We have 34 points right now! Now add to that 8 points that they could have had in wins if they won those games in overtime or a shoot out! ok does not seem like much but now add the 24 points they could have had for the approximatley 12 games lost by one point. That all adds up to 66 points which would put them right up there with Omaha and Fargo and in the playoffs...

So for those of you who want to throw the coach, the team, or your loyalty to the STARS out the window..... go ahead. Especially if you are a season ticket holder ..... give some of the true fans a chance to move closer and in a year or two or however long it takes comes back to the top ..... you can go sit some where else. As for my family .... we are dedicated STARS fans through it all (ups and downs, wins and loses).

Those young men play a hard game every night! Appreciate it instead of criticuze them or the staff!!!!!

Anonymous said...

To address the anonymous poster who stated that our powerplay has stunk for three years. Check the stats. Last year they has the best special teams in the league. They had the best PK and the third best PP. Two years ago they led the league in SHG by a wide margin. As for the players not liking the coach, the reason Jimmy was hired was how popular he was with the players. Carter Camper did quite a bit of campaigning for him. I think one problem with this team is that a lot of these players came here with their scholarships already in hand. It seems like teams play better when they have the carrot dangled out in front of their face. Over the years I have seen many players take their foot off the gas once they get that scholarship. I think that since we so few draft picks this year (result of the success of the prior two years) that he took what appeared to be known commodities instead of taking chances on guys with a lot of upside. In order to make this league a viable option compared to the Canadian juniors was to change to rules to lead to more parity. Omaha, Lincoln, and Des Moines winning the cup every year wasn't helping the leauge as a whole. Teams were dropping out every year. In order to have a better overall league the top dogs have to lose once in awhile. They are just following the NFL model

BellTolls said...

Anonymous before me, the college scholarship thing is not really much of an excuse. We only had 7 committed coming into the year; that is not very many. We now have and have had for awhile now less committed players than every other USHL team. Therefore we should have the hungriest team in the league, but that is not the case.

BellTolls said...

By the way, I heard Dax Lauwers committed to Army? True? That would make the first Lincoln Star to commit to a college since the season started. Congrats to Dax if so!

Hey Hey Whadda Ya Say said...

Lets get a grip...the STARs aren't having a great season...last place...nobody likes last place...but somebody has to be there. Blame the coach...sure, easy to do...fire him ? (I'm not qualified to make that decision...though most of you seem to think you are !)...make the kids play harder ?...thats it !...how ?...they seem to play pretty damn hard to me...but I'm just a FAN (My son and I show up to ALL home games to cheer our beloved STARS no matter where we are on the board) not a coach...

Congrats Dax !

and as always...

LETS GO STARS !!!

Hey Hey Whadda Ya Say said...

Yeti : how about "Whats the best section @ the Icebox ?" poll

Yeti said...

Hey Hey Whadda Ya Say,

That's a no-brainer! The best section at the IceBox is Section J! :)

I'll use your idea for the next poll question. Keep an eye out for it.

Hey Hey Whadda Ya Say said...

Can't be Section J...it on the wrong side !

Anonymous said...

To the one who thinks the assistant coach is the problem--double dog dare you to tell him to his fac. Clearly you got a personal problem with the guy.

Hey Hey Whadda Ya Say said...

Whats the scoop on Misuraca ? (sorry if this has already been posted and I missed it...)

LETS GO STARS !!!

James said...

Wow...Some things are just better left said in private. If you read all these posts at once like I just had to it seems like one big manic moment. Chill peoples...CHILL. Kids playing hockey. Stay happy.