Tuesday, January 12, 2010

Pre-Game Report: Sioux City at Lincoln 1/12


This is going to be a very brief preview of the game tonight. Too much on my plate right now.

The Stars will look to snap their franchise-record eight game losing streak as they take on the visiting Sioux City Musketeers tonight at the IceBox. Lincoln is currently in last place in the USHL West Division with a record of 9-18-3 (21 points). The Muskies are in sixth place in the USHL West Division with a record of 13-14-2 (28 points). This matchup will feature the two lowest scoring teams in the USHL. Sioux City is averaging 2.59 goals per game, while the Stars are averaging 2.37 goals per game.


This will be the second time these two teams have faced each other this season. In the first meeting on 10/03/09, the Stars shutout the Muskies in Sioux City by a score of 2-0. Lincoln goaltender Jared Coreau stopped all 25 shots he faced to record his first shutout of the season.

Faceoff is at 7:05pm.

Go Stars.

Note: You might want to leave a little earlier this evening if you plan on coming to the game tonight. The UNL womens baskeball team plays at the Devaney Center tonight, so parking could be a mess.

56 comments:

MacAttack said...

Stars also have a 8 game home losing streak to snap. Now would be a good time to break both streaks and start a nice LONG winning streak. These kids deserve some breaks considering how hard they played last weekend.

MacAttack said...

my bad. I cannot add in my old age. Stars last win at home was Nov. 14, since then we have lost 5 in a row.

Anonymous said...

Can it get any worse, come on boys, fight for your lives or at least your scholarships

John "Bluto" Blutarsky said...

Over? Did you say "over"? Nothing is over until we decide it is! Was it over when the german's bombed pearl harbor? Hell no, and it ain't over now. Cause when the going get's tough............The tough get going, who's with me? LET'S GO!!!

Anonymous said...

I hope the guys can turn it around this game and the rest of the season. Question: If the season continues the way its going now, would you expect to see anybody getting traded to a playoff team? Possibly for a younger player, or a draft pick. The reason I ask is, their are several guys on this team looking to get D1 offers. Will Jimmy either play them more coming down the strecth, for visibility, or trade a player like Bruno, Hibbs, Peterson, Lynch, Reed, Rush etc. to let that player get some more recognition in the playoffs. That would help them get more D1 offers? There is a lot of good young talent in the league that may help our team next year. Just wondering. The 89's have played very hard this season. I would like to see them rewarded for their efforts by getting into good D1 schools. Any thoughts out there?
GO STARS

BellTolls said...

it's now 6-2 Sioux City in the 2nd. The Muskies are 4-for-6 on the power play. Omaha also went 4-for-6 against us...time to rethink our penalty kill a little bit? Anyone know what the problem is out there? I couldn't make it tonight.

Norfolk Fan said...

Our special teams have suffered both ways this year Bell. Player turnover and injuries probably have not helped the team gel this year. The guys only seem to be in synch with each other at times, and I don't see players crashing the net like in years past either. We are getting shots on goal, but there doesn't seem to be anyone home for the rebound or redirect. But I'm far from a knowledgeable hockey fan. I never played so all I can do is refer to what I've seen work for our team and others from the stands.
I will never give up our guys though. The thousands of miles I've driven to follow them over the years is testament to that.
Go Stars! Never Quit!
Z

Anonymous said...

We lose way to many faceoffs hard to play without the puck. Way to many lazy penelties, no urgency to get first goal. Most forwards do not come back far enough making our first breakout pass to long and easy to read. Nobody in front of the net during PP to screen and tie up defencemen giving someone like Reid more time to shoot and we can pick up a rebound.

Anonymous said...

Anyone notice the scramble of the "A"'s tonight?

Yeti said...

That was certainly ugly. I'm at a loss for words, which is rare for me.

I'm not sure I agree with Coach McGroarty's comment after the game in which he said the Muskies outplayed the Stars 5-on-5. Yes, SC scored 5 powerplay goals, but Lincoln was never in this hockey game. Never.

BellTolls said...

Well it looks to me like 5-on-5 Sioux City won 2-1, and if you add in their shorthanded goal, they were actually 3-1 over us without the man advantage. That was an all-around sad effort.

Always denied posts said...

I think we need to remove the Stars logo on the front of the jerseys. We could also just trade or get rid of all 23 on the roster and start over from scratch. The attendence will just keep getting worse with efforts like tonight.

dr said...

i think i went to a hockey game tonight but all i really saw was an a$$ whoopin laid on us by sioux city. that was the WORST game i have ever seen by any stars team. no defense, very little offense, all together no signs of life. made me sick to my stomach seeing that many empty seats tonight but i guess we should get used to it cuz as long as they continue to struggle the seats are gona stay empty.

Looking for other input on this but to me it seems as if there is little to no leadership on this team. I thought this a couple weeks ago but now its not a thought for me, its a realization. I see the Berge has an A on his sweater and while he may be deserving he has only been in town for what a month? yes i no that he played in tri city for a couple years and was their captain but to me is shows that all the guys who have been in our lockerroom from day one dont want to step up and take command of the team, until someone "grows a pair" and gets everybody on the same page we are going to continue to struggle. In my opinion its as simple as that.

With that being said I am still going to be at every game i can make and will continue to support the team through the struggles, i still hold out hope they can find a way to make the playoffs but im not gona count on it.

See you all friday

Anonymous said...

Always Denied ...... I strongly disagree about removing the Stars logo and the 23 players to start again. I do agree the fans will not come to see an effort like tonight. It was BAD! Give credit to first year coach Luke Strand who came into our barn and made us the basement bottom team we are and have been most the season. We havte set a new record for consecutive losses and it feels as it is getting worse before it is getting better.
It is time for the front office to take action. We don;t need to keep trading away players like the coach does everytime he feels like it. We need to get a coach who develops his players and does not make excuses after each game. There is no way to sugarcoat this---The coaching staff is the problem.

dr said...

I'm going to have to agree with part of what Always Denied said, with the way they played tonight the star doesnt deserve to be disgraced like it was tonight. Like Jimmy said in the post game show maybe some of the players are playing for the name on the back of the jersey rather than the one on the front, maybe we need to take the name on the back off so they figure out they arent playing for themselves but they are playing for the team. Even though the individual effort may be there the team effort certainly isnt and thats disappointing.

BellTolls said...

Thank you all for voicing your opinions in a reasonable manner without calling out individual players. I know it can be hard (for me too) but it's a team game.

What is really disappointing is I, and I bet many others, really thought we would win this game. It was certainly very winnable and the team was showing signs. However, they completely laid an egg. I can understand everyone's frustration.

StarsHcky said...

A) I dont think it is completely fair to blame everything on the coaches. I understand that they pick the talent and it is their responsiblity to have the team ready to play, but w/ that being said, the coaches arent the ones playing.

B) I also know that it really sucks losing like this and having the season we are having... but if we all hate it so much and are so frustrated, how do you think the players are feeling about now? And really they dont need all of this negative imput because that isnt going to help. I cant even being to understand how frustrating it is for them to be so close to winning most of the games in this losing streak and not get one after all of the hard work.

I understand tonight was not a pretty game @ all, but if we thought it was ugly and frustrating, how do you think the players are feeling after this first part of the year back from break.

All I can say is that we as "the best fans in the league" should try to stay positive for our team and support them no matter what b/c it cant be easy for them to be going through this either...

A Stars Fan said...

The team was bag skated on Sunday and from what I heard it was by far the most physically demanding practice so far this year. Maybe not such a great idea to practice that hard on the Sunday before a Tuesday night game????? But that's the coach's call!

Anonymous said...

That was extremely painful to watch and probably one of the worst played games I have seen this team play. But not totally surprising either. It was probably just a matter of time before this type of game was played. I got to believe these kids (and coaches) are emotionally spent given the number of close but no reward games they have played in recent weeks. That is not an excuse and I am sure they are not happy with themselves either but it's reality. Hopefully they can regroup and still put together a respectable season but I am starting to have my doubts. Not because the talent isn't there, but the emotional/mental toughness may be zapped. Anyone who has played or coached the game will tell you confidence is the driving force and I didn't see anyone playing with any type of confidence last night. I know the fans deserve better and I will continue to support the team and hope the team can deliver atleast the effort that we have seen and not anymore games like last nights. Ugh!!!!

Anonymous said...

People need to take a deep breath and step away from the ledge! This was just one game. Granted the team has not been on the winning side of things very often this season but the effort has been there most nights. This was a game where I saw a bunch of physically and mentally tired players that were not ready to compete. It happens. My favorite NHL team has had more than its share of games like this but their fans keep going to the games. Hopefully the team has a good rest of the week in practice and is ready to go this weekend. Go Stars!

StarsHcky said...

One thing that we have to remember is that these are teenage boys and the USHL, not the NHL. Like someone about stated, the boys need to build some confidence. Well how do they build confidence when they can come on here and read what everyone is saying about them and how everyone is basically saying they suck and the seasons over? Now I dont believe that for one second... I have seen plenty of good in this team and I have seen them fight back hard @ the end of games so why would this be any different? I have faith that this team can pull it around! I think the main thing we saw last weekend is that the Stars are trying and they still need the fans there for good support, not just to go watch and then come back here and talk bad about them.

Anonymous said...

Stars Fan
I had actually look up what "bag skating" is. Interesting. More interesting is some comments that some NHL Coaches have on bag skate practices, which was utilizing the practice time to actually work on improving on the defencies than running your players into the ground.
Tuesday night I made a comment to another person at the box that the stars did look tired, no energy. Im sure this season is screwing with their heads, looks like their playing panic hockey.
Starfish

Anonymous said...

For whatever reason I have a real soft spot for this team and even though it may not have the winning record or star power of past teams, I really want to see them do well and my heart just aches when you see them not being rewarded for their hard work. Last night's game was really tough to watch and frankly couldn't wait to see it end. You just felt they struggled to get anything going and it was evidenced by all of the "lazy" type of penalties that were being taken. I do not care about the win/loss record of this team. I just hope they can find a way to feel good about themselves and enjoy playing the games. There's still lots of time and I'm holding out faith that there's still good hockey to be played this season.

Anonymous said...

The coach shouldn't have bag skated these boys, on Sunday, for their efforts Friday & Saturday. They played hard enough to win. Some small mistakes led to the losses. If I recall correctly with last years team, if you made a small mistake you sat a game or two. No one sitting this year. Totally different coach. To me the boys looked TIRED from the bag skate on Sunday. Too bad, with some good rest and some appreciation for how well they tried, especially against Omaha, we might have seen a different result. I hope the coaches learned, you can't wear your players out and expect great returns. Just doesn't happen in any sport.

Anonymous said...

I cant beleive you wont post anything controversal about the BAG skating on Sunday. These boys were TIRED. And it was the coaches decision to bag skate them. Too bad. The team is in disarray and all you want to post is ALL IS WELL. Good luck, I am going back to the real BLOG. Brent at least posts differing opinions.

Anonymous said...

If in fact the boys were skated on Sunday for their efforts this past weekend, shame on the coaches and they should take the fault for last night's results. Skating experts will tell you that punishment by skating is the absolute worst thing you can do; it reinforces bad mechanics and mentally you are punishing them with a skill that is the most important part of hockey. Dumb, just plain dumb. Now wonder they all skated like they had two ton bricks on their backs! I am not one to question or bash the coaches for game decisions, etc., however, this type of action would justify questioning the coaches decisions, especially when they had just played two hard fought games and would be playing another game in a couple of days. Hopefully the coaches will offset this error in judgement and give the players some time off!

Yeti said...

Anonymous at 12:40pm,

As you can see, your original comment was posted. I'm not sure if you realize this or not, but all comments left on this blog have to be approved by BellTolls or myself before they are posted. We are not near a computer 24 hours a day, 7 days a week, so there might some time between when a comment is originally made, and the time it is posted. I wish I didn't have to do it this way, but it is what it is. I've had to delete a number of comments that personally attacked individual players on the team, which is not cool. I won't put up with it. Period. The players deserve better.

I think everyone really needs to relax. Count to 10, take a deep breath, run around the block, have a drink...do whatever. I know I was a bit upset after watching the game last night, but there's no sense in letting it ruin your day. Let's show everyone why we are the best fans in the USHL. Show up Friday night, and cheer your ass off. Let the players and coaches know that despite the losing record, we are still behind them.

jofa said...

I posted this on the star gazing board a few days ago and it still fits perfectly today. Why has Petey not been used on the PK since his move to D ? He may be having a rough year but he is still your best shot blocker.If you don't want to expose him at D , put him at forward where he is more comfortable. When SC had a 5 on 3 Jimmy didn't hesitate putting him out. Its a shame you don't know your talent well enough to use them. Has everybody seen enough of the infamous five forward PP ? In Chicago we failed on two 5 on 3s, then gave up a shorty. Last night we gave up the shorty with 4 forwards so I guess that was better. These kids are not finished products,they are here to learn and be taught.If all you can come up with is bagging these guys I don't see much teaching.
This team will be better when they are taught better. I don't care about first place last place.I care about development and I don't see much of that going on.

Anonymous said...

Jofa is right on the money with the development point. After all, it is a developmental league. I remember when a player from CR came to the Stars and said "the difference between his old coach and Jimmy was systems were taught at CR and Jimmy just sends the boys out to play". And if they don't perform, they get bag skated. Which means they skate so hard they throw up in a garbage bag.
Leadership starts at the top. Dean Blais took a team his first season and improved them well enough at the end of the year to knock the Stars out 123. John Carlson gets a 10 year coaching contract and year after year he puts a great product on the ice. Chicago sends John Moore to the NHL and has a player who leads the league in scoring. Omaha has almost their entire team committed to colleges.
Are our boys being properly developed,promoted and cared sbout when it comes to advancing? What systems are being taught? Where are our strengths? How are we impoving?
Many points have been made to the woes of this team. The tryout camp provided as much if not more talent than any other camp. When players fail to meet expectations are they worked with or shipped out?
Sunday was a bag skate. Last night the coaching staff said the team didn't block enough shots. You can bet this week kids will be on the ice shot blocking.
These are not the problems. The problem is consistency in the lines(always changing= no chemistry}. The coaches are panicking. There was no blame to the goaltenders yet we fall behind and the panic pull is hit!
Would our coaches be selected to ever coach a college program? Don't bet on it.
If you or I failed in our job over and over and over and overETC 5 more times, we would be held accountable. Cut the losses right now and bring in a coach the boys can look up to and respect from the knowledge,wisdom and confidence that is so needed in their development. Anyone could do better than waht has happened as of lately.

BellTolls said...

Anonymous at 5:34, it's debatable that the tryout camp provided as much if not more talent than any other camp. I know I and a few others were underwhelmed with the amount of talent at camp this year, actually even a little worried with what we saw. Most figured we'd make trades and such to upgrade our talent, but obviously that has not been the case this year like in years past, when McGroarty was excellent at bringing in good players. Obviously you hit or miss on some acquisitions, and maybe this is just one of those seasons where we've missed a lot. Shows how great of players Kirt Hill, Ryan Kretzer and Garrett Vermeersch were, among others. No one has filled those roles this year.

Anonymous said...

All the coaches fluffy post game interviews with Mike about all the positives is starting to get old. Behind closed doors there is a lot of intimidation as a means to motivate and it is not working. There is only 6 committed players on the team the fewest in the league, and most of these players need teaching not fearing for their lives if they make a mistake. I am sure a lot of the older experienced players are shaking their heads and losing respect and desire to play under such circumstances and the younger players are losing confidence.Bottom line the team will not improve under this approch so change the approach or change the coach.

Jofa said...

BellTolls,I have been to the last two tryouts.09 was a sham compared to 08.The talent may not have been the same but the intensity was so much lower you could not see the talent. Too many kids and the returning guys knew they were on the team and just cruised. The only people to be held accountable are the coaches. They needed to nip it in the bud but did not. What is most embarrassing is most of the kids with the D-1 commits had them before they got to Lincoln.

Anonymous said...

Anyone know what happened to David Gerths? At the end of the first period he had showered up and was sitting by me in the stands. Did he get hurt or get in trouble?

Jofa said...

I believe he may have been one of the guys Jimmy pointed out in his post game. I never heard David's name again after the second goal was scored.

Anonymous said...

everybody is terrified to make a mistake out there.Imagine if everybody who made a mistake out there got sent to the shower early? Goalie lets in 2 and gets yanked. How can these kids setlle down and play with a coach like that? Listen to the postgame comments where he is so quick to name names and point the finger. Whatever happened to we win as a team and lose as a team?

BellTolls said...

someone on the Blue Line Blog mentioned this team's passing ability, and it's something I have noticed but have not commented on until now because I simply forget. But this team's passing ability is not up to par. What makes great hockey teams great is the ability to find open men across ice and hit them on the tape. When I watch this team, I rarely see a skilled pass. Our style is to dump it in, scrum in the corners, and hope someone gets it out and finds a shot. I can count on one hand the number of times I've seen a pass to a player in front of the net for an easy goal. I have no proof to back this up, but I would guess 70-80% of the goals that are assisted are goals off rebounds. I'm not trying to be critical, but offering something I've noticed that others may have also. When we hear about how talented this team is, that's why I question it a little bit, because I don't see any highlight passes or goals out there that make me believe that. Watching Omaha's power play, it was tic-tac-toe all night. We simply don't do that. I'd like to see our guys have better vision on ice. I will say we have an excellent pass up the middle for a breakaway every now and then, but when we're playing O in the opponent's zone...we don't have very skilled passing ability, and it really shows.

BellTolls said...

P.S. I would just like to point out to any Tri-City fan reading this blog how we actually care about winning and losing. They always accuse us "blood-thirsty goons" of only going to games for fights. Well here are, the worst team in the league, and with one that rarely fights, and we still lead the league in attendance and are discussing losses on here and no one has mentioned our lack of fighting this year. Hmm...

Anonymous said...

Belltolls, you are right on the money. Attendance is sky high and people like you care enough about the Stars to post a blog where fans can express what they see as paying customers. My question is why can't Stars ownwership see these flaws? When will they make changes to ensure the fan base remains supportive? Why don't they see what the fans see? Everybody fails.What are they going to do about it?

starstruck said...

The worst hockey game ever played by a Stars team? Maybe... It certainly was not easy to watch. However, this is not the only Stars team that ever had a melt-down game. Remember Omaha besting Lincoln by a score of 7-1 last spring? And the 06-07 Stars trounced in Sioux City to the tune of 10 - 1? (My radio was turned off when SC scored 8 unanswered goals by the end of one period.) Those are just a couple games that come to mind and those Stars teams had much more favorable records. If ever a team was due for a melt down, it would be our current team - after a struggle of 30 games with very little rewards.

So many people seem to be taking this loss personally. I know as a fan it was difficult to watch - but think of the impact on the players & coaches. How many posting here have been skating since they were three, worked their way up through all levels of hockey, competed for spots on teams in the top Juniors league & left home to fight their way through a grind of 60 games? Only to read that your team's "fans" say you lack talent, you don't deserve to wear the Stars jersey, and your entire team should be traded. That is certainly what I would hope for when I am struggling - stones thrown by those who are there to support me.

As a fan committed to this team, I will look for this group of Stars to put this game behind them, recover, and come back battling. Hopefully the fans are there to give them the support they need. Go Stars.

(I don't have the answers as many others here do. It's too bad you post anonymously - if you picked a name Stars management would know who to contact to fix the season.)

Layla said...

Starstruck, I think you read my mind, very well put!

StarsHcky said...

I totally agree w/ starstruck... these are teenage boys in a developmental league, not grown men in the pros. As fans we need to try to stay positive for our team and keep supporting them no matter what.

James said...

LOL Starstruck! Well said. As far as the game I really have no comment. See yall friday. Go Stars!

tzweeb said...

in a previous post, yeti asked what we need to get things turned around...i think i have the answer..

COW BELLS!!

remember that we are still the best fans, we do love our team and the players and coaches and we will still come out on friday.
by the way 3,012 tickets were sold on a tuesday night, not saying all were there, but support is still there.

Go STARS!!!
p.s. no cow bells!!

Yeti said...

FYI. Just because someone has an opposing opinion doesn't make it ok for you to ridicule them. I just had to delete one of those comments. If you can't play by those simple rules, don't post.

Be civil, please. Thank you.

BellTolls said...

Stars fans will remember goaltender Ryan Massa from tryout camp this past summer. He played in the all star game and gave up 0 goals, but did not perform well enough throughout the weekend to make the team. Well, he is now on Fargo, who has won 8 games in a row and is creeping up on Omaha for the lead in the West. Massa is 10-1-1 and has a .902 save percentage. Maybe this just isn't the Stars year. :|

Anonymous said...

Cab Morris was at the Stars tryout two years ago.Let's see where he's ranked---Ohh here he is NUMBER ONE!

Layla said...

We can spend all day saying coulda woulda shoulda, but the past is the past and all we can do is support the boys who are on the team now.

Anonymous said...

BellTolls, if you think that your team 'rarely' fights, you are sadly mistaken. Even with being in last place, Lincoln still averages more fights and coach penalties than most other teams in the league. They are still the 'goons of the west', they just aren't successful at it this season. ;)

BellTolls said...

Anonymous at 7:04, the Stars have been in 27 fights this season in 31 games, and that statistic is misleading because about 10 of those fights occurred in line brawls this season with Youngstown and Waterloo. So really in about 28 games there have been 17 fights for Lincoln.

That said, and my point still stands, the Stars have had 9 fights at home this season.

Anonymous said...

BellTolls, you made your own counterpoint. You mentioned people not discussing your "lack of fighting". 27 out of 31 is nearly 90% average of fights per game. There is NO "lack of fighting". What are the stats for how many fights other teams have?

Crazy Carl said...

hey tzweeb,
If Cow Bells aren't the answer, what about rubber chickens?

BellTolls said...

Anonymous, you said earlier that Lincoln averages more fights than most other teams in the league, but now you're asking me to figure out the fighting stats of every team in the league? Wouldn't you already know the answer to that if you're going to make claims? I'm not going to waste my time to go do that, it took forever to go through each player on our team and see how many fights they've been in.

As I pointed out earlier and apparently you missed, of those 27 fights about 10 of them have occurred over 2 or 3 games because of line brawls, so that leaves about 17 fights for 28-29 games, not nearly 90%.

And I never said we aren't fighting as much as other teams. Compared to past Lincoln teams, this one doesn't fight as much. Again, we've had 9 fights at home this season. Last year, we had like 4 fights 2 seconds into ONE GAME at home.

NOT to mention we lose most of the fights we're in anyway because we don't have very skilled fighters like Bollig, Sdao, Dalhuisen, Siers, etc. My point is simply that the fans are still coming even though we are losing and we don't muck it up very much compared to our history.

Longtimefan said...

I agree, I would at least like to see a skilled fighter on the team. I don't watch hockey for the fights but it is an important part of the game. Earlier in the year i witnessed a lincoln player going to the ice with an injury. An opposing player cheap shot him while he was down. A decent sized Lincoln defenseman shoved the opposing player but refused to drop the gloves. I honestly couldn't believe my eyes. That never would have happened in the past. The game continued with no fights. That to me says you can push around Lincoln. Dalzy, Sdao, Bollig, Siers, Boll, or hell even Cohen wouldn't of let this happen. Bring in an enforcer please. If your gonna lose a game, at least let the opponent know they played a hard nosed team. I enjoy watching the skilled players do their thing, but nothing get the crowd in the game like and open ice hit or a fight. Bring back the physical play to Lincoln please.

Anonymous said...

"Bring back the physical play to Lincoln please" that is exactly what is lacking. Jimmy builds physical teams that fight for the puck and get dirty goals in front of the net. There just isn't any of that this year.

Longtimefan said...

I've had season tickets for quite a fews years and have seen Lincoln at its peak. I understand having a down year, but all I want to see is some grit and some pride. The moto is "We play for you", well lets get after it. If the boys go out and do there best and not let teams shove them around, then I'm happy. As much as Fouts liked to fight, i can't believe he isn't preaching some physical play to these guys. Go out and play tough, play hard, lay some guys out, and let the chips fall where they may. Tuesdays game lacked everything.

tzweeb said...

yes carl i did see the rubber chickens in section k on friday. it did bring us enough luck to get some chicken, and then milk. we havent had that for a long while so please bring them again!!!